November 9, 2006
Stremnaya Road of Death
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From the little research I have done; it does not look like this road is really in Bolivia. It looks like it could be located in the Taihang Mountains in China. I checked out snopes and they have nothing on this piece of OfficeSpam. Please leave a comment if you have anymore information on this.
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Posted by: Tom Legrady at November 10, 2006 12:02 PM
Well im from Bolivia, and i haven't seen that thing before, i guess is true cuz verything in this country is... Hmm... i think there's no words to discribe it.
Posted by: Carola at November 11, 2006 9:53 AM
Not Bolivia. After a bit of googling I found this post in flickr and the photograher calls his set Taihang -Gorge Hicking. So I assume that it is in the Taihang mountains of china.
Posted by: bhupendra at November 16, 2006 1:03 AM
well, what ever it is, where ever it is, it is scary!
just imagine driving along the road at night, with no headlights, and fuel indicator pointing to empty sign!
kool..... i wud love to visit this place.
Posted by: Bobby at November 19, 2006 12:54 AM
i looked @ the other pics why are the pics here all smooth cut and the other ones @ http://flickr.com/photos/yanggeng/sets/103935/ are ruff look to be hundreds of years older etc all ruff edges not smoothe even the rd is dirt
Posted by: keith at November 20, 2006 12:47 AM
This road is NOT in Bolivia, and I am not guessing like other people who commented.
We have narrow roads running mountain side, but not the one in these pictures.
Posted by: Mario at November 20, 2006 1:38 PM
Hey guys, that's not Bolivia. I've traveled and photographed a huge portion of the country and never come across 'the holed'. It looks more like Sichuan, China.
Posted by: Jon Derksen at November 21, 2006 8:38 PM
I have been on this road and I can tell you for a fact that this road does exist. It is in Bolivia and goes from La Paz to a small city in the Yungas called Coroico. It's not a huge portion of the whole road. All I could think of was how long it would take to get to anything that may have gone over the side (including us).
Posted by: Jerry at November 22, 2006 4:50 AM
I have done the road from La Paz to Coroico in 1991.
I have never heard the name Stremnaya.
In this time, it was a "piste".
Posted by: Alzxandre at November 27, 2006 12:57 PM
Posted by: Alexandre at November 27, 2006 1:05 PM
see the attached link. this road has similarities, but unpaved.
Posted by: mary at November 27, 2006 6:27 PM
This is not in Boliva, thats sure. Nothing much that
Posted by: PARVEEN CHOPRA at November 30, 2006 12:27 AM
other thing, indicating that Stremnaya Road is in China, is its name 'stremnaya', which means =crag, precipitous, abrupt.. whatever, i don't belive that they give russian names in Bolivia, in China it`s very probable
Posted by: Aga at November 30, 2006 2:53 AM
I agree, this is NOT in Bolivia! I agree with those who say it is more likely in China, for several reasons: First, the name "Stremnaya" (Russian, not Spanish) is a huge indicator! Secondly, other pics I have seen of this same road show (Volvo) trucks navigating the road, more indicative of an Asian setting than South American. Also, see the people? See what they are wearing? They are Chinese peolpe, not Bolivian! And, finally, the lush green vegetatian is also not indicative of the very dry/arid climate in the mountainous areas of Bolivia! This is China, with no dobut! And, as a Jeep road fanatic in Colorado, I am ready to go drive this road! Anybody want to go along??????
Posted by: C.H. Cook at December 1, 2006 8:52 PM
The road from Bolivia's main city, La Paz, to a region known as the Yungas was built by Paraguayan prisoners of war back in the 1930s.
See BBC report on 11 November
Maybe the photos are not all of the same road!
And maybe it isn't called 'Stremnaya' ... or at least the road in Bolivia isn't.
Posted by: Liz at December 3, 2006 12:46 PM
jesus. you're all ill-informed, guessing idiots. the road IS in Bolivia. I have been on this road. It is NOT in China, it IS the road linking La Paz and Corioco in Bolivia. Anyone who suggests otherwise is incorrect. If you don't know what you're talking about don't post.
Posted by: James at December 3, 2006 11:41 PM
I am from La Paz Bolivia and I travel frequently to Coroico and all over the country, I have never seen and not even heard about a road like this. This is not the death road (thats how we call it) that goes from La Paz to Coroico. I would like to know where is this road, I would like to climb those walls.
Posted by: Juan Carlos at December 4, 2006 2:11 PM
Any one who calls everyone else "ill-informed, guessing idiots" is obviously an idiot himself. I've been on that same road myself and the likelihood of the Stremnaya road being in Bolivia is slim to none. The road starts in La Paz, goes up to the highest point possible, and then goes into warmer and more tropical climate as you go. There is plenty of vegetation once you start the descent, there is no way the plants/trees would stop growing long enough to have vegetation-free cliffs hundreds of feet high such as in those pictures. Not to mention that the paved portion of the road ends shortly after you leave La Paz and I saw nothing like this at that point.
Posted by: Pamela M. at December 4, 2006 3:53 PM
After Pamela' comment i am pazzled: so WHERE is this road actually located?!
The fact is that "stremnaya" is the Russian word, meaning "very, or dead risky".
So please finally clarify the location and how the name of the road appeared.
Posted by: dmitri at December 6, 2006 2:34 AM
SI ES BOLIVIA.. YO ESTUVE AHI..ESTA EN EL SUDESTE DE BOLIVIA CERCA DE SUCRE LA EX CAPITAL
Posted by: martha at December 7, 2006 11:31 AM
Ignore the Pamela comment. She obviously has no idea what she's on about. "Any one who calls everyone else "ill-informed, guessing idiots" is obviously an idiot himself" Why is that obvious? Is English your first language Pamela? There's nothing there to suggest it makes them an idiot themselves. It was simply a suitable expression for everyone here as they were obviously guessing, and having travelled on this road myself, they were obviously incorrect, making them idiots. Dimitri, you can be assured that the road runs through Bolivia.
Posted by: James at December 9, 2006 10:07 PM
I took the Yungas Road some years ago. It definitely doesn't look like that. In the south of France, there is a road through the Gorges du Daluis which looks similar to the pictures of Stremnaya.
Posted by: Frank at December 11, 2006 7:30 AM
ok. this road is NOT in bolivia. yes, there is a road there that is known as "the most dangerous road in the world," but clearly this is not it. the road in bolivia is built into lush green mountains, not vertical rock cliffs. this road is in China and is known as The Guoliang Tunnel:
also cehck out:
and for a similar rock hewn road in China:
hopefully this will put to rest rumors that this is in Bolivia.
Posted by: tim at December 11, 2006 11:58 AM
Actually this is Guiliang Tunnel in China, not the Road of Death in Bolivia. It's still very scary, though!
Here's a little bio on it:
Before 1972, the path chiseled into the rock used to be the only access linking the village with the outside world. Then the villagers decided to dig a tunnel through the rocky cliff.
Led by Shen Mingxin, head of the village, they sold goats and herbs to buy hammers and steel tools. Thirteen strong villagers began the project.
It took them five years to finish the 1,200-metre-long tunnel which is about 5 meters high and 4 meters wide. Some of the villagers even gave their lives to it. On May 1, 1977, the tunnel was opened to traffic.
Posted by: Trish at December 11, 2006 4:48 PM
soy de colombia yeahhhh.. que chimba de carretera, no se en donde queda pero la quiero conocer, si alguien sabe de verdad a donde queda le quedare muy agradecido,
Posted by: alejandro at December 13, 2006 9:44 PM
I was looking at the links from tim, and it looks to me that that is not the same road...Now I've never traveled to China or Bolivia, but the architecture was obviously very different from the ones above...If anyone REALLY KNOWS where these specific photos were taken, I would be very interested to know.
By the way, it is very likely that there are all sorts of roads dug into cliffs around the world...I mean, they don't all have to be from the same location...right???
Posted by: clara at December 14, 2006 6:40 PM
Check this link for more pictures. You will see that the people are not chinese and if you check the registration numbers (visible on some vehicles) you'll be able to identify the country.
Guess that the main confusion comes from the fact that there are 2 sets of pictures each of them with a different location. First set is China.
Posted by: Adi at December 18, 2006 9:05 AM
Hi all, just very quickly, the first road, the one carved into the cliff is NOT in Bolivia. I was in Bolivia in 2005 and never heard about or saw a road like this. Not sure where it is but the logic and previous posts point to China.
The 2nd road however, is the "death road" or "Worlds most dangerous road", whatever people like to call it and is definitely in Bolivia. I rode down this (which was the full distance) on a mountain bike which was awesome fun. It was much more dangerous driving back up it in a minivan though.
Would love to ride/drive down the tunnel road but it definitely aint in Bolivia.
Posted by: Dave at December 18, 2006 6:30 PM
Dmitri, there IS a death road in Bolivia, but the Stremnaya pictures posted above are not photographs of that road. Tim did a good job of answering your question - the road from La Paz to Coroico has vegetation that the Stremnaya photographs don't show.
If you've seen the PowerPoint presentation called "Driving in Bolivia" that is floating around the internet, it has two sets of photographs. The first set shows the Stremnaya road which is NOT the "death road," the second set are actual photos of the true death road in Bolivia. Having been on that road myself, I can tell you that the view is beautiful...but if you look down from your vehicle window, you will probably not see the road, only a drop of several hundred feet.
Here is a link to a photo of the death road:
I don't recommend going on this road unless you're a daredevil, but I hope everyone gets a chance to visit Bolivia some day, it is a beautiful country.
Posted by: Pamela M at January 3, 2007 4:13 PM
the road is obviously on Vulcan. Humans called it the death road, as Vulcans don't emote.
Live long and prosper.
Posted by: elijah at January 4, 2007 8:29 PM
Hey paisanos! let the people belive that this pictures are from Bolivia, i am sure more than one 'turista' with enough money is out there looking for the place already! HAHAHA
Posted by: Koya at January 11, 2007 9:30 AM
HERE IS THE REAL STORY:
Posted by: Michelle at January 12, 2007 7:10 AM
One more comment: in response to martha's comment (firstname.lastname@example.org) I am not sure how she came up with this comment! there is no such thing as this near Sucre!! even worst, SUCRE is not the 'EX' Capital of Bolivia! Sucre IS the Capital of Bolivia!!
cheers to all
Posted by: Koya at January 15, 2007 9:02 AM
Bolivia is one of the few countries that has two capital cities -- Sucre is home to the judicial branch of the government (making it the constitutional capital), while the president and congress are stationed in La Paz (the administrative capital).
Posted by: SGKU at January 21, 2007 2:24 AM
You'll have to excuse James, he's off his medication...you know, the stuff that makes you forget which continent you are on.
Posted by: The Fed at January 29, 2007 2:34 PM
This road is in china
Posted by: Chipper at February 4, 2007 2:57 PM
Hmm, there's real guardrails in some places. Unlike Route 1 in Kashmir from Jammu to Srinagar, where guardrails are a nice idea but mostly non-existent.
Still VERY cool road.
Posted by: Lisa at February 15, 2007 2:30 PM
in response to Koya comment (email@example.com) you need to read more about Bolivia, before speaking something; (in response to Martha) because she has all the reason about the capital of Bolivia
Posted by: Clarita at March 14, 2007 8:15 AM
YOU ARE WRONG ! IT is in CHINA ! HENAN province !
Because i arrived ! Please look http://blog.whjy.net/user1/328/archives/2006/1239.html
我想说：你们的编辑真的不负责！这个图片在中国家户家喻户晓！我本人在2000年10月去过，这条路叫“郭亮洞”，位于中国河南省辉县！ 打上“郭亮洞”可以在 images.google.com上搜索到的！
Posted by: winiyuan at March 20, 2007 10:03 AM
Plase Look ，this china photographer !
you editor is a fool ！
Posted by: winiyuan at March 20, 2007 10:30 AM
ALL YOUR GUY ARE IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT!
Posted by: Isaac Pena at March 29, 2007 8:26 AM
Who cares where the road is at?Its a cool road I agree witht the comment above mine!
Posted by: Ashley at March 30, 2007 5:07 PM
This site might offer some help for folks - it has all of the roads listed with their appropriate locations and more photos:
Posted by: Greg at April 1, 2007 9:58 AM
Y'all should go 2 my website i think i'm gonna add some stuff about this and then put as shoutbox 4 it well anyway go 2 www.freewebs.com/kitcatbar
Posted by: ashley marie at April 5, 2007 5:06 PM
Ok, I have looked this up on the net and the conclusion I have come to is that the pictures above are not the road in Bolivia. I have never been there, but i have enough inteligence to look it up. The road in Bolivia is called Yungas Road, it runs from La Paz to Coroico and it has been voted the worlds most dangerous road. The road in Bolivia has more vegitation and does not have the "tunnels" shown above. My question is......if all of you know enough about the internet to be entering your OPINIONS, not facts, how is it that you are too ignorant to google facts? Also, if people that LIVE in the area are saying that that is not the road, how can you dispute that. The road in Bolivia is very popluar among moutain bikers, look at the pictures some of them have posted of trips they have made down the road. Last of all, before calling people names Get the facts!!!! besides, there are more intellegent ways to insault people, ways that don't make YOU look like the idiot.
Posted by: wendy at April 22, 2007 7:42 AM
Please someone tell me, where the HELL is this road???!!!
HELP, I can't take it anymore :(
Posted by: Peter at June 16, 2007 2:45 PM
The pictures above are not the road in Bolivia.
the pictures are in Taihang Mountains in Huixian County, China (Guliang tunnel)
Posted by: Ahmed at July 5, 2007 2:53 PM
These are set of Mix pictures from Taihang Mountains in Huixian County, China & Stremnaya road , Bolivia
Posted by: Kausarali at July 6, 2007 10:45 AM
Road in your pictures is the Guoliang Tunnel Road in China
Posted by: Roger at July 11, 2007 2:07 AM
Posted by: pramodekumar at July 13, 2007 3:16 AM
It is imposible that road is in Bolivia. People in bolivia is too lazy to do this work and if they were slaves to do it , the masters didn,t order that shit.
that is in China , no douth , chinese people are practical and hard workers
Posted by: JULL at July 13, 2007 4:02 PM
i don't know about this place plus don't know where it is actually placed...anyways i wondered to see such amazing place pictures...
if i get a chance in my life ,i will love to travel over this road...
Posted by: sabida at August 6, 2007 10:48 AM
From the pictures it seems that the road cut out of the rocks is in China but the other road where there's green all over could be from anywhere. I live in India and there are plenty of roads that could look like that. Maybe they are 2 roads from 2 different continents. Who knows :) but it sure is magnificent.
Posted by: reader at August 17, 2007 5:22 AM
Well, I wouldn't call anyone "idiot" or "ill-informed" but one thing I can asure you is that this road does not connect La Paz with the Yungas region of Bolivia, in fact it connects Potosí with Villazon IN BOLIVIA. Anyway it doesn't matter which country "has" it, what really matters is that this is a beauty of nature mixed with human development. If you ever get the chance to come to Bolivia please don't miss the chance to BE in that road, from Potosí to Villazon.
Posted by: Cheo at September 6, 2007 3:09 PM
Magnificient Guoliang Tunnel Road in China, here's the link:
Posted by: tim at September 21, 2007 6:03 PM
I have been on this road in Colorada..it definite runs between Ouray and Yankee Boy Basin past the Camp Bird Mine! We call it the shelf road! Lotsa fun boys and girls!
Posted by: BigBilly at September 24, 2007 12:19 AM
I really don't know why everyone one is so worried about where the road is, but this site should clear eveything up. It is NOT in Bolivia and it is in China. It is called the Guoliang Tunnel and the other is is Yungas road in Bolivia.
Posted by: Drew at October 4, 2007 9:48 PM
hey guys this is my thesis report..wht ive known is....there are two road of death..one is in bolivia..in mountain andes..linking lapaz to corioco..second,,in china,,gueling tunnel..but the most dangerous or worst road is in bolivia..thats the real road of death,,coz nobody can pass on that road without encountering some accedent...unlike in road of death in china..its not realy danger to the passers..
Posted by: candy at October 7, 2007 11:32 PM
Hey guys. Stop fighting. The pictures show two roads. One in China AND one in Boliva. They are not the same road. So you are both right and both wrong. The dry tunnel road cut into side of mountain is in china, the other scenes are in Bolivia. The site http://static.iftk.com.br/top-5-most-dangerous-roads-of-the-world.html referenced above shows them all.
Posted by: midge at October 24, 2007 7:34 PM
Actually these roads are in main London near the Palace. I hope that will put an end to all the arguments on here.
Posted by: Vikas at October 31, 2007 7:44 AM
See link for 5 most dangerous roads...this one listed as first and in China.
Posted by: Brad at November 5, 2007 4:18 PM
I saw a show about one of these roads on either the Discovery Channel or History Channel recently – probably Modern Marvels on the History Channel. The road they were discussing was in South America, i.e., Bolivia. The latter photos look more familiar than the earlier ones. There was no strange-looking tunnel dug out of the side of the cliff.
I agree with the recent posts that two different roads are shown. One is definitely in Bolivia, the other I do not know.
But I love the comment about these roads being in London near the Palace. What a nut! :-)
Posted by: David K. at November 6, 2007 7:08 PM
I totally disagree with the post by BigBilly (Sep 24, '07). I am a Jeep road fanatic in Colorado and have explored many of the Jeep roads in the area of Ouray and Yankee Boy Basin, Colorado. This road is definitely not in that area or, for that matter, anywhere else in Colorado. There are several so-called "shelf roads" in the state but these photos were not taken anywhere in Colorado. So let's leave Colorado out of the discussion completely. My vote is still with China over Bolivia, but there does appear to be two different sets of photos showing two different roads.
Posted by: C.H. at December 12, 2007 1:24 PM
hi I am from Pune, India.
The above road may be in bolivia or not but it can not be the part of famous bolivia's road of death
here;s the reason
There are lot of postings showing that large heavy vehicals on the bolivia roads, & compair those with above tunnels. can those pass those tunnels?
My conclusion is the above pictures are not from bolivia's road of death
Posted by: Pankaj Raijade at July 21, 2008 8:10 AM
esto del death road es toda una confusion, haber tu checa bien.
Posted by: Jos at July 31, 2008 1:28 PM
Sometimes internet forums just look like a bar full of bragging and brawling drunks and it is difficult for serious people to get their message through. If someone would suggest that these pictures are in the Netherlands, surely someone else would continue discussing this nonsense.
Anyway, already a long time ago Dave (18/12/06) and Pamela (03/01/07) gave a clear and comprehensive overview so it's no use continuing the discussion. By the way, Sucre is the capital of Bolivia but governement is based in La Paz. Anyone who follows some international news must have read or heard about recent conflicts around this situation!
Posted by: Alkamari at September 15, 2008 10:56 AM
I have traveled and thoroughly Bolivias
"Death Road" and this is definately not part of it.
Some have commented that this is part of the new highway, but if you pay attention to the geology it is not possible. I will be traveling to China soon and would love to see the real "Stremnaya Road".
Hopefully I will be able to locate it.
Posted by: Ken Weaver at October 2, 2008 11:29 PM
well, the time i take this wat, i know that the end of my life has come.They are really trying following this road.The government should make it broader.
Posted by: MUHAMMAD NASYR at December 27, 2008 11:52 AM
I saw those pictures of STREMNAYA ROAD which are quite terrible. What I would like to know is whether the government of Bolivia is serious about helping the poor citizens who use the road always and who die sensilessly every year.
Posted by: Zablon at December 14, 2009 2:12 AM
Guoliang Tunnel, China
Posted by: jim at January 3, 2010 11:52 AM
Photographs of China's Guoliang Tunnel are often incorrectly identified as depicting Yungas Road. Yungas Road is also often incorrectly referred to as Stremnaya Road.
Posted by: jim at January 3, 2010 11:54 AM
I don't claim to have first hand knowledge of where these pictures were taken, but I am, as someone suggested in their post, inteligent enough to go on the internet and do my own research. This will satisfy me. Every person is entitled to his or her own opinon. That is with the exception of
Mr. Isaac Pena. (March 29, 2007 post). There is an old saying, "It takes one to know one". Mr. Pena
must have been looking in a mirror when he called
everyone "a fucking piece of shit". He really showed lack of brains to the world. A person of this
intelligence usually has a vocabulary of words with
no more than 4 letters. This makes Mr. pena a very
rare individual. Since he used one 7 letter and one 5
letter word, He knew how to open a dictionary and find these big words. Either that or he had somone
looking them up for him. The most likely situation in his case. I am suprised he could find the thirteen
different letters on the keyboard.
As I said, everyone that posted an opinion on this site probably sincerely thought their opinion was correct. they are entitled to that opinon.
When I do my research and form my opinion, any person that disagrees it. So be it, It is my opinion and they are entitled to theirs.
Posted by: Russell at February 20, 2010 2:21 PM